redhedman50
Elio Aficionado
- Joined
- Mar 30, 2014
- Messages
- 74
- Reaction score
- 212
This forum is plagued with passive-aggressive trolls that snipe others comments. Somehow, the so-called administrators let these comments go, however; if you respond back to the trolls, you get a nasty-gram and told that your post has been taken off. I didn’t know we were all in the 3rd grade and had to play nicey-nicey with the class bully. I guess the administrator is good friends with his team of passive-aggressive trolls. I got fed up with Craig’s snide comments about an old car call the Pontiac Phoenix and told him I had a bird for him. It did not have a pic attached or anything, yet that is somehow a censorable offense.
Goofy wrote me and said: “Your actions in this message are not what we are looking for on this forum so it has been deleted. The post really had no contribution to the conversation and instead was purely directed as an insult to another member who has also been sent a similar notice.
We understand that sometimes conversations get heated and members get a little carried away but please try and stay on topic and avoid personal attacks on other members even if that means taking the high road and not responding to another member if they do it first. You are welcome to report any issues you encounter and you can be assured that the moderator team takes all reports seriously.”
Out of over 800 members on the forum, there is only a handful of trolls that make our lives harder than it has to be. It seems they always have something negative to say. Let’s look at a few:
3 Card had a valid question about the gas/credit card.
Craig said: “Move along folks, nothing new here.”
3 Card had to defend his initial comment: “My point was/is Elio used the fuel card option as a gimmick to get reservations..If you read their email you will see they are withdrawing and stopped advertising it..I'm tired of sifting through this and the Elio site .. They have my money so All I need to hear is if/when my units are ready to pick up..I've also asked to have my profile and all post, pictures deleted from this site..Good luck to all of you..Cheers”
To quote Goofy: “The post really had no contribution to the conversation and instead was purely directed as an insult to another member…”
So why are these administrators not deleting that post? Why not warn him to quit? Why not tell him if he continues to troll he’ll be locked out for 1 day first offense, 1 week second offense, and 1 month 3rd offense, and eliminated 4th offense?
But I digress, let’s look for more:
John Giberson tried to share a brand new Facebook site about the Elio: “Please feel free to come and join the Future Elio Owners of America Facebook page. Another location to share photos, videos, ideas and anything you might like to share about owning an Elio!”
Craig said: “Thanks, but way to much negativity.”
John Giberson had no clue and just put a bunch of question marks: “????????????????”
Craig replied again: “Maybe that’s a little strong, I compare it to when I transferred from the Marine Corps after 10 yrs. and joined the Army for another 10. I will stick with the smaller, tighter unit.”
John Giberson just didn’t understand Craig’s negativity and said: “I suppose I get that...I was a little shocked since I JUST created the group and there is really nothing on it yet. It just seemed like a good venue to share photos and videos. I am heading over to West Palm Beach on Saturday to take some photos there...Thanks for your reply”
Being that this post had started out so positive, others had to join in:
Kuda27 said: “no likey 'Facebook', likey 'Twitter'. To each his/her own............”
Jobeleca said: “Why create a clumsy facebook page when we have this site already?”
According to Goofy’s logic, Craig and others should have been censored since it “had no contribution to the conversation and instead was purely directed as an insult to another member”.
Trust me there are a few others that love to throw bombs at what others say, and hey, I can deal with it, and throw bombs with the best of them, but I can’t compete with a pick-and-choose administrator that can’t enforce his own “rules” evenly across the board.
Also, I’m pretty sure that I’ve fought for America’s freedoms; one of them being freedom of speech. I guess a site that hails the making of a new American vehicle can’t have freedom of speech and needs to be censored. But censorship is a slippery slope. I can admit to what I said. “I have a bird for you.” And yes I did mean it the way it sounds. And yes, one of our trolls that likes to make comments that fuel arguments kept egging it on. If that is censorable speech, then I am speechless.
Trust me, I am not the only person that thinks others on this forum are negative. The negative themselves say how negative it is.
Goofy wants to send me a “conversation” and then he doesn’t want to reply back when I respond to his censorship message. Well Goofy you can take this one down too if there’s just too much truth in it. Other readers know that what I’m saying is true. Out of over 800 members, how many do you see here on a regular basis? There are some that are here all the time, and some of those are the ones running off your newer members.
I don’t believe in giving up any of my rights as an American citizen. I was just fine before I got on this site, and I’ll continue to get news about the Elio without it. Like I told Goofy when he sent me the message, I’ll be off of here for a while because it isn’t worth getting my blood pressure up because of a few bad eggs. To those that try to help, continue sharing knowledge, etc… I enjoy your posts. To those who have nothing but smart-butt comments that make the original poster scratch their heads, I hope others wise up and pretty soon you’ll have the whole forum to yourself. If you think I’m kidding, look at the stats for the forum: 800 plus users, and the most on the forum is 73. That is sad.
Goofy wrote me and said: “Your actions in this message are not what we are looking for on this forum so it has been deleted. The post really had no contribution to the conversation and instead was purely directed as an insult to another member who has also been sent a similar notice.
We understand that sometimes conversations get heated and members get a little carried away but please try and stay on topic and avoid personal attacks on other members even if that means taking the high road and not responding to another member if they do it first. You are welcome to report any issues you encounter and you can be assured that the moderator team takes all reports seriously.”
Out of over 800 members on the forum, there is only a handful of trolls that make our lives harder than it has to be. It seems they always have something negative to say. Let’s look at a few:
3 Card had a valid question about the gas/credit card.
Craig said: “Move along folks, nothing new here.”
3 Card had to defend his initial comment: “My point was/is Elio used the fuel card option as a gimmick to get reservations..If you read their email you will see they are withdrawing and stopped advertising it..I'm tired of sifting through this and the Elio site .. They have my money so All I need to hear is if/when my units are ready to pick up..I've also asked to have my profile and all post, pictures deleted from this site..Good luck to all of you..Cheers”
To quote Goofy: “The post really had no contribution to the conversation and instead was purely directed as an insult to another member…”
So why are these administrators not deleting that post? Why not warn him to quit? Why not tell him if he continues to troll he’ll be locked out for 1 day first offense, 1 week second offense, and 1 month 3rd offense, and eliminated 4th offense?
But I digress, let’s look for more:
John Giberson tried to share a brand new Facebook site about the Elio: “Please feel free to come and join the Future Elio Owners of America Facebook page. Another location to share photos, videos, ideas and anything you might like to share about owning an Elio!”
Craig said: “Thanks, but way to much negativity.”
John Giberson had no clue and just put a bunch of question marks: “????????????????”
Craig replied again: “Maybe that’s a little strong, I compare it to when I transferred from the Marine Corps after 10 yrs. and joined the Army for another 10. I will stick with the smaller, tighter unit.”
John Giberson just didn’t understand Craig’s negativity and said: “I suppose I get that...I was a little shocked since I JUST created the group and there is really nothing on it yet. It just seemed like a good venue to share photos and videos. I am heading over to West Palm Beach on Saturday to take some photos there...Thanks for your reply”
Being that this post had started out so positive, others had to join in:
Kuda27 said: “no likey 'Facebook', likey 'Twitter'. To each his/her own............”
Jobeleca said: “Why create a clumsy facebook page when we have this site already?”
According to Goofy’s logic, Craig and others should have been censored since it “had no contribution to the conversation and instead was purely directed as an insult to another member”.
Trust me there are a few others that love to throw bombs at what others say, and hey, I can deal with it, and throw bombs with the best of them, but I can’t compete with a pick-and-choose administrator that can’t enforce his own “rules” evenly across the board.
Also, I’m pretty sure that I’ve fought for America’s freedoms; one of them being freedom of speech. I guess a site that hails the making of a new American vehicle can’t have freedom of speech and needs to be censored. But censorship is a slippery slope. I can admit to what I said. “I have a bird for you.” And yes I did mean it the way it sounds. And yes, one of our trolls that likes to make comments that fuel arguments kept egging it on. If that is censorable speech, then I am speechless.
Trust me, I am not the only person that thinks others on this forum are negative. The negative themselves say how negative it is.
Goofy wants to send me a “conversation” and then he doesn’t want to reply back when I respond to his censorship message. Well Goofy you can take this one down too if there’s just too much truth in it. Other readers know that what I’m saying is true. Out of over 800 members, how many do you see here on a regular basis? There are some that are here all the time, and some of those are the ones running off your newer members.
I don’t believe in giving up any of my rights as an American citizen. I was just fine before I got on this site, and I’ll continue to get news about the Elio without it. Like I told Goofy when he sent me the message, I’ll be off of here for a while because it isn’t worth getting my blood pressure up because of a few bad eggs. To those that try to help, continue sharing knowledge, etc… I enjoy your posts. To those who have nothing but smart-butt comments that make the original poster scratch their heads, I hope others wise up and pretty soon you’ll have the whole forum to yourself. If you think I’m kidding, look at the stats for the forum: 800 plus users, and the most on the forum is 73. That is sad.