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The only problem is that manual seats are usually only 4 way adjust, I don't need power, but would pay for it to get a seat that adjusts to exactly where I like it. Make mine cloth, I hate the slippery feel of leather.

I found the mention, but nothing that backed it up. Guess we still don't know for sure.

Somewhere on here, I read they would be Aisin. I'll try to find that when I get home from work.

As I read it, it won't be a factory year one option, mostly due to the cost of liability.

For better than 5 months of the year, my (and your) paychecks go to nothing more than taxes. It's singlehandedly the largest cut out of your pay. If all that money going to support everything the government wants to spend it on is fine with you, so be it. I'm not OK with it, and ain't likely...

Z, I'm sure not trying to change your opinion. I like it just the way it is. From my perspective, I'd rather have heard EM say something like this: "We've been hard at work on the engine design. Our first castings had some issues that we've now corrected." I realize that would scare some...

G1, I see from one of the other threads where you've pointed out that the castings are different. Hopefully this means progress, but as far as the picture goes, I stand by my above opinion.

Until they've been machined and assembled, they're paperweights. If I were Elio PR, this pic would never have seen the light of day. To me, it's propaganda for those that are clueless to what they're really seeing, just hoping that nobody would look at it and say "Hey wait just a minute..."...

I refuse based on principle. Gov't needs to stay the Sam hell out of private business, even ones I happen to like. When everyone's hand is out, there's no one left to fill the hand. Think about that.

My thoughts exactly. Let's get some mills fired up.

I wouldn't worry too much. That's probably a pic of a media tester that had gone just a short distance in it. Adapting to any new vehicle takes a little time, but is soon second nature. You'll meet a lot of these on the roads of rural America over the next few months. The drivers quickly...

"Paul Elio said so far, reservation holders are older, more affluent buyers who will use the Elio as a second or third car for commuting." This caught my eye. It makes sense to me, since a lot of the younger and/or lower income crowd may have interest but not be able to "gamble" on something...

Cars? Who knows. Railroads though we're designed to the width of a team of horses.

More importantly, there's no hard point to mount the shoulder belt to in the center of the roof. Not a problem with an Elio.

Well, I was b###hing last week about the lack of tech. Thanks for giving us some!

I gotta do some digging. I know I've seen a territorial map that says different somewhere. The capitol thing? Pure brain fart. Whoops...

Unless it moved, it's still WEST of Detroit. We here in Cheeseland want the UP back. We've offered the doofuses in Ann Arbor $20 and a box of Leinies for it.

Oh, forgot to mention the 8-92 powered canoe in my last post. Lawd I Apolergize! :D

460s? Turbines? Blah. No better sound in the world than a 92 series Detroit going through the gears.

I plan to drive it year round, but just like I do now, I'll take the truck when the going is tough. Our highway departments up here are (despite our constant complaining about them) top notch, days I need 4x4 to get where I'm going are actually few and far between. The composite body panels...