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    Just Wow!!!

    They were already using an off the shelf ECU. It's a Continental and many cars already use them. It just gets programmed for the particular engine and then to communicate via CAN to the rest of the components on the car (i.e. ABS unit). Most cars today run a Bosch, Siemens or Continental ECU...
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    Little News From Tesla

    Tesla is in huge trouble with the SEC. https://www.wsj.com/articles/elon-musk-sued-by-the-sec-for-securities-fraud-1538079650
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    Just Wow!!!

    There's the twinair 2 cylinder engine from Fiat that is available in Europe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_TwinAir_engine
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    Just Wow!!!

    The Elio is not a car, thus no car emissions are needed. Only motorcycle. So, that can include lots of other 3 cylinder engines already in production. It just needs to be from a Fortune 500 company as per Elio Motors. Then there's CARB, hopefully Elio makes the car 50 state emissions legal and...
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    Just Wow!!!

    Here's how your Elio will perform and the best part, just listen to the 2019 Elio, it's perfect.
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    Just Wow!!!

    That's not good to hear. I thought it was going to shave time off of it. Right now, 76 weeks comes out to March 12, 2020. End of 2019 is just over 65 weeks and that's 11 weeks less than the official Elio timeline.
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    Just Wow!!!

    So the Elio will be up to 110hp. That is going to be a pretty fast car for only being under 1800 lbs. When that turbo option comes about, 150 will be the norm. The Elio will not just be the best in mileage but one of the best in performance too.
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    What Is Elio Stock Trading For Today?

    Actually, Elio can reach 84 mpg or better. I never had faith that they would have reached it using a 2 valve, II motor with no variable cam timing. Even el cheapo Indian and Asian motors use that technology and if it was not useful, they would not invest in it. They will cut a penny out of a...
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    What Is Elio Stock Trading For Today?

    Who cares what powertrain it has. Ford, Chevy, Hyundai, Honda, VW are all pretty much the same. They all go through the same testing today. It's not like Ford is different. I'd rather have an OEM motor as opposed to an Elio anyway. Cash strapped company with zero experience against a proven OEM...
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    Trade War

    The cash strapped do not look long term and using logic. Your point is valid in a perfect world but in the real world doesn’t happen. There’s a reason why in areas of low income, plenty of $3k to $5k cars exist. Same thing goes for mileage. Not in the immediate need. This is assuming The Elio...
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    Trade War

    The Smart was crash tested and passed well before it was ever sold in the US. The Elio will not be officially crash tested. The IIHS will test it and that will determine how good of a job Elio did. Since there's over 65K guaranteed sales for the first year, Elio will be just fine until that...
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    Just Wow!!!

    I'd say it would stay the same. They are saving $120M and they don't have to build the motor themselves. That is already done and the new Elio motor will have already been amortized by the OEM. So, Elio will save at least $500/car and that would definitely help the bottom line and speed up when...
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    Just Wow!!!

    You do realize that Ford is only going to stop selling cars in the US (except for the mustang). They build and sell lots of them for the RoW. In addition to that, Roush works with other manufacturers and not only Ford. Case in point...
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    Just Wow!!!

    Also, this is what an MoU is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memorandum_of_understanding
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    Just Wow!!!

    Ot's an Aisin transmission. No different than what has been out for many years. So unless Elio does an about face on the transmission, it will only be what Elio has told us.
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    Just Wow!!!

    This goes completely against what everyone has been saying for years. I wondered why they did not go with an OEM but for some reason the excuses were non stop. Things like, "Can't get an OEM to supply engines" were the norm. I assume everyone here will be extremely upset with this decision...
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    Trade War

    A few things to remember, the average cost of a brand new Elio is $10,800. This is according to what Paul Elio has said. He did not include shipping and destination charges, so let's just add $400 onto that for a total of $11,200 on average for what people will pay for a brand new Elio. Only...
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    Trade War

    Average price of a used home in Missouri: 1980 - $36,700 2018 - $153,000 MSRP: 1980 Chevette - $4,057 2018 Spark - $13,220 11.1% was the cost of a base Chevy when compared to a home in 1980. 8.6% is the cost of a base Chevy when compared to a home in 2018 $117,000 would be the cost of a home...
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    Trade War

    The BMW plant in Spartanburg, SC is the largest BMW plant in the world. They only make SUV's there yet 70% of them are exported. The plant employs over 9,000 people. They have a program that works with the Vo-tech college where students can learn not just how to push buttons in a plant but...
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    What Is Elio Stock Trading For Today?

    Here’s an interesting one. 1968 Beetle- $1,699 1968 dollars today - $11,967 1968 Elio - $1,058 1968 Beetle sales - 399,674 (best year ever) So in 1968 imagine how well the Elio would have done. The Beetle cost 40% more than the Elio did back then. So the need for the Elio has been at least 50...
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