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The Elio Automatic Transmission

Discussion in 'Elio Drivetrain' started by Floyd, Dec 21, 2013.

  1. Rob Croson

    Rob Croson Elio Addict

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    I'm not really sure. I'm far from an expert on ethanol blended gas. Something about lower vapor pressure from the ethanol preventing ignition of the fuel mixture. The Wikipedia article has more info on ethanol blended fuel.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_fuel#Cold_start_during_the_winter
     
  2. outsydthebox

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    Do you mean...in "wetter" climates?...because alcohol is "hygroscopic"?
     
  3. Coss

    Coss Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    I found where it took the wrong exit:

    Off Track sign.jpg

    It was right here: http://www.elioowners.com/posts/171896/
     
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    Becaaaauuuse ...

    ...ethanol will damage the automatic transmission? Melt the silicon seals? or something?
     
  5. floydv

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    You guys are missing the connections:

    E85 is gasoline with 85% ethanol by volume, 15% RBOB.
    Ethanol in gasoline is mostly made from corn.
    Most corn ethanol is made in the Midwest, particularly Iowa.
    Iowa has sister cities in Japan.
    Japan is home to both of Aisin AI's manual transmission manufacturing plants, located in Nishio City and Kira.
    And the Elio will have either the manual MC5 or automated manual BC5 transmissions, both made in Japan.

    See? Ethanol is connected to Elio!
     
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    Any time significant quantities of alcohol are involved, topics are bound to stray. :faint:
     
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    DUH....I should have known :p
     
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    Lots of good information on this thread. The 2-10% less energy per gallon of gas doesn't sound like much when you are only getting 20 mpg. That is only a drop of .5 to 2 mpg, hardly measurable. But in an 85 mpg autocycle that is a little more significant, That is 1.7 to 8.5 mpg drop. So our 85 mpg autocycle might only manage a measly 76.5 mpg. I think a lot of people are going to complain at this if they use the blended fuels. I get the non-ethanol fuels for my non fuel injected motorcycles, plane and small engines because of the damage to some carb parts and fuel lines. The fuel injected engines are not as sensitive to the ethanol and just get the reduced fuel mileage. Looking forward to getting my Elio though to see just how far I can go on a gallon. My 650 KLR dual sport motorcycle manages about 55-65 mpg on a trip, and it doesn't have a heater. I am looking forward to my 60th Birthday Present to myself of a rocket silver Elio in 2017. Go Elio.
     
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    Squirrel !! Sorry
     
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