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The Elio Engine

Discussion in 'Elio Drivetrain' started by ls10, Dec 11, 2013.

  1. Coss

    Coss Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    You left out manual steering in cars with power steering, it's hard, but you can still steer with the engine off.
    That won't be a problem in the Elio since it doesn't have power steering.

    and W. Willie is correct, it is 2 clicks; it's been a standard since 2000.
    If you turn an WOT runaway off, then back on, it will start the engine again. It would have to be off for a while (like till it stops spinning).
     
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  2. Horn

    Horn Elio Addict

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    Realistically the chance of it stetching/snapping is slim. Probably the same as an electronic issue.

    I had a clutch cable snap on my car....$15 later and it was fixed.
    Now look at the issues you could have with a hydraulic cluch system. Bad master cylinder, bad slave cylinder, line....then you have to bleed.

    No point really in arguing. Lol. Just preference. If the elio comes out, I'd prefer it to be as simple as possible.
     
  3. W. WIllie

    W. WIllie Elio Addict

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  4. Horn

    Horn Elio Addict

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    Yep. Manual steering is no problem on light cars. Not much of a difference at higher speed either.

    I didn't mean starting the engine back up. I was thinking of steering lock, but that was on cars older than 2000. I would try hypermiling and the key would skip the first click and go to the second. I would immediately click it forward once to get the manual steering back. It would not start the engine.

    I can hear the grinding of the starter and flywheel teeth. So horrible. Lol
     
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  5. Horn

    Horn Elio Addict

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    W. Willie....i want your insight!
     
  6. Marshall

    Marshall Elio Addict

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    I know little about mechanics, but I would worry about hacking unless the electronics is isolated from the cloud.
     
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  7. bunchathrees

    bunchathrees Elio Addict

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    I am glad you pointed out the disconnected feel. There are many Makes and Models which just do not give enough feedback to the driver. This has kept me out of Toyota and GM products. Every now and then I check back in, but there is nothing quite like our Acura for complete driving sensation.
     
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    Agreed, on modern cars just let the engine bounce off the rev limiter for a while. No danger unless the car has been modified with an aftermarket ECU or reflashed to remove the rev limiter. If you watch drifting videos, those guys are always bouncing off the rev limiter and that is with motors making more power than stock. I hit it a few times on my bikes when not paying attention while passing without issue too.

    Regarding turning off the car one click or two, that is harder when you have pushbutton start/stop.
     
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  9. bighammer

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    Early 70's Chevy Vega made a lot of people wary of aluminum engines. There were a combination of issues that led to its problems. GM decided that eliminating liners in the cylinders, they could save $8/engine. Reynolds Aluminum had created a new alloy that performed well, cutting the liners should not have been an issue. There were some cooling system design problems, that made the engine sensitive to overheating. Higher heat would weaken the new alloy, and you'd have scuffed bores, higher oil consumption, etc.

    The aluminum block was very light, but more expensive to make. To further cut costs, a cast iron head was used to keep a higher profit margin. (yes, it weighed more than the block, and made it sort of top-heavy) The differences in their thermal properties created even more problems.

    Aluminum is the most common motorcycle engine material. I have a Suzuki SV650, and it's a great example of low cost, bullet-proof power. I'm not concerned about the Elio engine at all.
     
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    I happened to come across Nissan's astonishing 1.5 liter 3 cyl. engine, called DIG-T R that promises 400 hp from a block that weighs only 40 kg, and that was also covered in this thread. Did Paul Elio in fact approach them? I wonder what a tuned down version (say back to 1 liter and 100 hp) might mean for economy...
     
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