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  1. JCar

    Asked For My Deposit Back, Thanks To American Oil-denial

    I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but many people in this forum must have seen "Who Killed the Electric Car?" (2006). I think those forces are still very much in play, especially with the current anti-science leadership. That would bode well for the Elio concept, I suppose. Another issue is...
  2. JCar

    Asked For My Deposit Back, Thanks To American Oil-denial

    Elio had no problem refunding my modest deposit as a mailed check, though it's still in the mail at the moment. I was not all-in and don't know how others have fared. After reading too many articles about insoluble debt, I had to bail, but I don't blame Elio, rather the American people who are...
  3. JCar

    It’s “snow” Problem

    You mean like it's vs. its? Carry on!
  4. JCar

    If Oil Prices Rose, Would Elio Rise With Them?

    Those numbers (with no real context) do nothing to disprove that oil is finite and that there's less of it in the ground every second. They just reflect a desperation to extract as much oil as possible because the world depends on it. For example, a "billion barrels of oil!" sounds impressive...
  5. JCar

    If Oil Prices Rose, Would Elio Rise With Them?

    NOTE : inflammatory political commentary removed
  6. JCar

    If Oil Prices Rose, Would Elio Rise With Them?

    Your mindset is exactly why I posted this topic. Most people don't care about anything that doesn't suit their immediate wants, or makes them uneasy. They are much more interested in feeling good than doing what's really needed. Notice how quickly people have forgotten the very legitimate...
  7. JCar

    If Oil Prices Rose, Would Elio Rise With Them?

    Vague talk of technology is just a way to ignore oil's finite nature. It's scarcer in the ground every second, no matter how much tech we throw at it! People see themselves as optimists but they tend to be denialists when it comes to finite resources (countless ghost towns built on mining and...
  8. JCar

    If Oil Prices Rose, Would Elio Rise With Them?

    Exactly my point. People need to conserve no matter what the price of oil is, but it's a hard sell. The comment by "gottemfeathers" is the attitude of too many Americans. They can't think more than a few years into the future and see money as a magical resource unto itself.
  9. JCar

    If Oil Prices Rose, Would Elio Rise With Them?

    My take on Elio's decline is that most people are too dumb, greedy and/or shortsighted to understand or care that: Oil is finite. Abiotic oil has never been proved in any significant amount, if at all. Given the truth of point 1, oil shouldn't be squandered at any price, but most people still...
  10. JCar

    Elio Belly Up. Fake News Or Not?

    It's not just that author, it's the official record. Here's a link to the filing with no relation to the gas2.org article: http://www.otcmarkets.com/edgar/GetFilingHtml?FilingID=11698571 inflammatory comments deleted
  11. JCar

    Elio Belly Up. Fake News Or Not?

    There's some hope if conventional global oil production continues to be curtailed by OPEC and/or the natural peak really kicks in. U.S. shale oil production needs high prices to be practical, and a chain reaction of greater public concern over price & MPG may ensue. If I was marketing the Elio...
  12. JCar

    So Obvious ……...

    Wind turbines of the large, industrial kind are actually doing great harm to nature's scenery, wildlife and human sanity (noise). If their intermittent output could be negated by more conservation the Earth would be a lot less ugly down the road. I don't understand why the environmental camp has...
  13. JCar

    Govts Should Subsidize Elio, Not Tesla Vehicles

    Global warming is no hoax. CO2 and potential warming was understood way back in the 1800s, e.g. Tyndall & Arrhenius. Nature doesn't recognize wingnut ideology. But large wind turbines are not friends of nature. Far too much visual blight and intermittent output makes them a big mistake. I find...
  14. JCar

    Things You Will Not Be Able To Do With Your Elio

    It would take some sort of drifting technique to avoid potholes or debris that are wider than 1/2 of the tire spacing. That's actually one of my bigger reservations, having gotten used to avoiding objects in a truck, along with more ground clearance.
  15. JCar

    Strange Elio Video

    I detect subtle "racism" in the suspicion that non-white folk were just messin' around with the car, but....never mind! She's not bad looking, either.
  16. JCar

    New Elio Commercial

    The ad is trying to appeal to both political camps despite their different outlooks. I wish they'd hammer home the fact that oil is finite no matter what the price happens to be, even if the average dullard doesn't want to hear it. The 2015 dip in oil prices due to OPEC & Russia flooding the...
  17. JCar

    Model 3 Vs Elio

    A closer comparison would be to the more mainstream Chevy Bolt, or the cheapest electric cars available. I take it you drive long distances in that truck because it's used for work? I'd like to see a lot more people interested in the Elio due to awareness of oil's finite nature, not just...
  18. JCar

    Model 3 Vs Elio

    It looks like you're missing half the point of the Elio in buying a gas guzzler. Oil is being squandered for ridiculous luxury barges and society will try to find someone to blame when shale hype dries up.
  19. JCar

    Tough Sell?

    It's too bad so many shortsighted Americans follow the "price of gas" as if it's purely an abstract resource in some spreadsheet, independent of physical geology. When the price falls, they see oil as more "plentiful" in terms of total future supply because they don't accept that a finite...
  20. JCar

    Mpg Matters, Regardless Of Gas Prices (original Elio Concept Reminder)

    Yes, there is a myth going around that America is somehow a net oil exporter. It's a lot more technical than that, involving this temporary glut situation and oil as a global commodity. We are hardly energy independent, and a few years of shale oil (net supply, not all burned in that time-frame)...
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