1/15/2014 - Ksla - Elio Motors Announces Delay, Production Expected To Start In 2016

[wayne kemp]

Ford delayed production of the all new F-150 by 3 months
"Ford also owes it to itself. The company obviously never wants to undergo the industry ridicule and shellacking by the automotive press it took after spending an estimated six years and $6 billion developing its world car - the Mondeo/Contour/Mystique. "

Now, if Ford (who hasn't gone bankrupt yet) spent $6B developing that one vehicle and even this past year had a delay of 3 months producing its most popular product, why in the heck do you think Elio can do it without delays? You may be living in a world of self entitlement and instant gratification there. My two teenage daughters live there as well.

Ford didn't delay it for 3 years as Elio has done. Think on that.

 

[BilgeRat]

Self appointed "experts"..... o_O

Time to take Paul's place and do it within your own timelines...

 

[BilgeRat]

Ford is an established company with it's own R&D department, and BILLIONS behind it, NOT a manufacturing startup.

 

[wayne kemp]

Ford is an established company with it's own R&D department, and BILLIONS behind it, NOT a manufacturing startup.

Very true. So why even bring up another company and compare it to Elio?
Like we've said hundreds of times, it's not the delays its the NOT TELLING THE TRUTH.

 

[NSTG8R]

Ford didn't delay it for 3 years as Elio has done. Think on that.

Here's a little "real world" reading for you, Wayne, EZ, and Tex....I bolded the relevant points for your convenience. I'm sure you've heard of the company.

Boeing's early plans called for first flight by the end of August 2007 and premiered the first 787 at a rollout ceremony on July 8, 2007.[55] The aircraft's major systems had not been installed at that time and many parts were attached with temporary non-aerospace fasteners requiring replacement with flight fasteners later.[56] Although intended to shorten the production process, 787 subcontractors initially had difficulty completing the extra work because they could not procure the needed parts and perform the subassembly on schedule, leaving remaining assembly work for Boeing to complete as "traveled work".[57][58][59]
In September 2007, Boeing announced a three-month delay, blaming a shortage of fasteners as well as incomplete software.[60] On October 10, 2007, a second three-month delay to the first flight and a six-month delay to first deliveries was announced due to supply chain problems, a lack of documentation from overseas suppliers, and flight guidance software delays.[61][62] Less than a week later, Mike Bair, the 787 program manager was replaced.[63] On January 16, 2008, Boeing announced a third three-month delay to the first flight of the 787, citing insufficient progress on "traveled work".[64] On March 28, 2008, in an effort to gain more control over the supply chain, Boeing announced plans to buy Vought Aircraft Industries' interest in Global Aeronautica;[65] a later agreement was also made to buy Vought's factory in North Charleston.[66]
On April 9, 2008, Boeing announced a fourth delay, shifting the maiden flight to the fourth quarter of 2008, and delaying initial deliveries by around 15 months to the third quarter of 2009. The 787-9 variant was postponed to 2012 and the 787-3 variant was to follow with no firm delivery date.[67] On November 4, 2008, the company announced a fifth delay due to incorrect fastener installation and the Boeing machinists strike, stating that the first test flight would not occur in the fourth quarter of 2008.[68][69] After assessing the 787 program schedule with its suppliers,[70] Boeing confirmed on December 11, 2008, that the first flight would be delayed until the second quarter of 2009.[71] Airlines, including United Airlines and Air India, stated their intentions to seek compensation from Boeing for the delays.[72][73]

 

[TexasElio]

Ford delayed production of the all new F-150 by 3 months
"Ford also owes it to itself. The company obviously never wants to undergo the industry ridicule and shellacking by the automotive press it took after spending an estimated six years and $6 billion developing its world car - the Mondeo/Contour/Mystique. "

Now, if Ford (who hasn't gone bankrupt yet) spent $6B developing that one vehicle and even this past year had a delay of 3 months producing its most popular product, why in the heck do you think Elio can do it without delays?

Ford is a global industrial powerhouse with billions of dollars of resources...

Elio is small marketing company that is lacking proper funding...

And the compassion between the two is?

 

[wayne kemp]

Here's a little "real world" reading for you, Wayne, EZ, and Tex....I bolded the relevant points for your convenience. I'm sure you've heard of the company.

Boeing's early plans called for first flight by the end of August 2007 and premiered the first 787 at a rollout ceremony on July 8, 2007.[55] The aircraft's major systems had not been installed at that time and many parts were attached with temporary non-aerospace fasteners requiring replacement with flight fasteners later.[56] Although intended to shorten the production process, 787 subcontractors initially had difficulty completing the extra work because they could not procure the needed parts and perform the subassembly on schedule, leaving remaining assembly work for Boeing to complete as "traveled work".[57][58][59]
In September 2007, Boeing announced a three-month delay, blaming a shortage of fasteners as well as incomplete software.[60] On October 10, 2007, a second three-month delay to the first flight and a six-month delay to first deliveries was announced due to supply chain problems, a lack of documentation from overseas suppliers, and flight guidance software delays.[61][62] Less than a week later, Mike Bair, the 787 program manager was replaced.[63] On January 16, 2008, Boeing announced a third three-month delay to the first flight of the 787, citing insufficient progress on "traveled work".[64] On March 28, 2008, in an effort to gain more control over the supply chain, Boeing announced plans to buy Vought Aircraft Industries' interest in Global Aeronautica;[65] a later agreement was also made to buy Vought's factory in North Charleston.[66]
On April 9, 2008, Boeing announced a fourth delay, shifting the maiden flight to the fourth quarter of 2008, and delaying initial deliveries by around 15 months to the third quarter of 2009. The 787-9 variant was postponed to 2012 and the 787-3 variant was to follow with no firm delivery date.[67] On November 4, 2008, the company announced a fifth delay due to incorrect fastener installation and the Boeing machinists strike, stating that the first test flight would not occur in the fourth quarter of 2008.[68][69] After assessing the 787 program schedule with its suppliers,[70] Boeing confirmed on December 11, 2008, that the first flight would be delayed until the second quarter of 2009.[71] Airlines, including United Airlines and Air India, stated their intentions to seek compensation from Boeing for the delays.[72][73]

Boeing has a few thousand more parts and a little more high tech than a GO CART.
Since you want a comparison how about Nascar and Top Fuel Drag cars. They build new ones every year and compared to the Elio that is still High Tech to a GO CART.
Anyway Paul says MOST PARTS are off the shelf.

 

[TexasElio]

Here's a little "real world" reading for you, Wayne, EZ, and Tex....I bolded the relevant points for your convenience. I'm sure you've heard of the company.

Boeing's early plans called for first flight by the end of August 2007 and premiered the first 787 at a rollout ceremony on July 8, 2007.[55] The aircraft's major systems had not been installed at that time and many parts were attached with temporary non-aerospace fasteners requiring replacement with flight fasteners later.[56] Although intended to shorten the production process, 787 subcontractors initially had difficulty completing the extra work because they could not procure the needed parts and perform the subassembly on schedule, leaving remaining assembly work for Boeing to complete as "traveled work".[57][58][59]
In September 2007, Boeing announced a three-month delay, blaming a shortage of fasteners as well as incomplete software.[60] On October 10, 2007, a second three-month delay to the first flight and a six-month delay to first deliveries was announced due to supply chain problems, a lack of documentation from overseas suppliers, and flight guidance software delays.[61][62] Less than a week later, Mike Bair, the 787 program manager was replaced.[63] On January 16, 2008, Boeing announced a third three-month delay to the first flight of the 787, citing insufficient progress on "traveled work".[64] On March 28, 2008, in an effort to gain more control over the supply chain, Boeing announced plans to buy Vought Aircraft Industries' interest in Global Aeronautica;[65] a later agreement was also made to buy Vought's factory in North Charleston.[66]
On April 9, 2008, Boeing announced a fourth delay, shifting the maiden flight to the fourth quarter of 2008, and delaying initial deliveries by around 15 months to the third quarter of 2009. The 787-9 variant was postponed to 2012 and the 787-3 variant was to follow with no firm delivery date.[67] On November 4, 2008, the company announced a fifth delay due to incorrect fastener installation and the Boeing machinists strike, stating that the first test flight would not occur in the fourth quarter of 2008.[68][69] After assessing the 787 program schedule with its suppliers,[70] Boeing confirmed on December 11, 2008, that the first flight would be delayed until the second quarter of 2009.[71] Airlines, including United Airlines and Air India, stated their intentions to seek compensation from Boeing for the delays.[72][73]

WOW...Elio and Boeing...that's an interesting comparison...

The "Dreamliner" & the Elio Vehicle...I never though of them as similar concepts...

 

[Ty]

Ford is a global industrial powerhouse with billions of dollars of resources...

Elio is small marketing company that is lacking proper funding...

And the compassion between the two is?

The comparison is that even a huge powerhouse producer sees production delays and spends a lot on development. When Elio faces the exact same issues, some people say "squandering money" and "lies". The truth is that any manufacturer out there can face issues... the beloved Chevrolet and Chrysler both screwed up so bad the government had to bail them out. Cut the little startup a little slack. Jeez.

 

[TexasElio]

The comparison is that even a huge powerhouse producer sees production delays and spends a lot on development. When Elio faces the exact same issues, some people say "squandering money" and "lies". The truth is that any manufacturer out there can face issues... the beloved Chevrolet and Chrysler both screwed up so bad the government had to bail them out. Cut the little startup a little slack. Jeez.

Thanks...point well taken!