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Discussion in 'Similar Vehicles' started by ChuckP, Oct 21, 2014.
She ain't got no helmet on in CA?
No real need for or MC helmet required in most States, unless age restricted, particularly with the FUV's roll over protection and seat belts.
No helmet required to operate the Arcimoto in CA or Oregon.
That's straight from Arcimoto themselves.
Not quite true.
That's... No helmet required in most states, unless age restricted IF the vehicle is fully enclosed and has a steering wheel.
There are a whole lot more states where Elios and Solos can be driven w/o helmets than where FUVs can be ridden without helmets.
If you made FUV helmet and endorsement maps of the states, they would look a whole lot different than the Elio helmet and endorsement maps.
But... Arcimoto says they're working on it.
Wait a minute...........I assume this is the current California Statute since the FUV does not meet the autocycle definition.
Arcimoto said there are exemptions that apply to the SRK/FUV in both California and Oregon.
From their website:
"Do I need to wear a helmet when driving an FUV?
Helmet laws vary by state, and a full-state-by-state analysis is pending.
There will be no requirement for a helmet with the FUV in any state where helmets are not required for driving motorcycles.
In addition, states like Oregon and California carry additional exemptions due to the enclosed form factor of the FUV."
"Do I need motorcycle endorsement to drive the FUV?
This also varies by state, but in our early adoption states of Oregon and California, a motorcycle license is not required. We plan to work with state legislatures around the country to demonstrate how anyone who knows how to ride a bike inherently knows how to operate the FUV, and in turn gain support for no motorcycle endorsement requirements within their state."
Looked at the FUV. Like it. Cant use this version due to miles per charge but I suspect that will continue to rise with each model Arcimoto puts out. I will probably be getting one at that time. I'd bet they will have a second production model rolling before Elio gets its first one to the production floor even if Elio got funding by first Q next year.
What's your required range?
200 would be nice. 180 a must.... At highway speeds. Thats what gets me on most of the EV's.
Make sure you account for winters in your range calculations. Battery efficiency drops off significantly once it drops to freezing temperatures. If you drive 180 miles per day, then a 200 mile range battery will leave you stranded when it gets near freezing! Cabin heaters are a significant load, and will have a big effect on your range. Also, highway speeds place a significantly higher drain on battery power than city speeds. My 84 mile round trip commute in the Bolt drains 1/3rd of my 230 mile battery, when the outside temperature was ~75F. When the outside temperature dropped to near freezing, that consumption went up to ~ 40% battery capacity. I keep the cabin temperature at 68F, and use the seat and steering wheel heaters. My overall estimated range has dropped from ~240 miles to ~200 miles.
The Bolt has an energy efficiency screen that shows you how much battery power goes to different usage. When my wife and kids are in the car and crank the heat up to 72F in near-freezing weather, battery conditioning and environmental power can pull nearly 20% battery power.
These are the things that most dealers can't tell you, and probably don't even know yet. If the salesman doesn't have personal experience with EVs, they will be clueless about this kind of stuff.
Even with all this, no regrets at all. I love it. Three months with no gas station!