For Those Who Think Ev Information Is Appropriate For An Elio Forum...

[Watashiwah]

Preposterous! In the true sense of the word, putting ‘the end’ before the beginning. For fear of being condescending (you do know what that means? ) all those steps, mechanically, physically, and electronically were simplified by solar photovoltaics and (presently addressed) battery storage. When similar steps are engineered, designed, and implemented for Hydrogen Applications, it may be just as straightforward.

Hydrogen fuel science hasn’t been born long enough to die already. People are actually flying around the world now and you can even make bread in a countertop machine without touching the ingredients! Who’d have ever thought.....

 

[Rickb]

Just because you can make bread in a countertop machine with a box of bread mix doesn't make for good bread. I bake all of my own bread and touch all of the ingredients. I would suggest driving the EV to the local bakery and buying a loaf of artisan bread, otherwise a waste of electricity. IMO

 

[Sailor Dog]

Tesla Owners and Consumer Reports apparently don't agree. Better to consider the positive Tesla Owner's reviews for reliability and performance over any Consumer Reports articles. 92% of Tesla Owner's will buy again.

Consumer Reports uses owner reviews from their questionnaires to base reliability ratings not exclusively but primarily.

 

[Rickb]

Quote directly from a recent Consumer Reports article:

Link to full article: https://www.consumerreports.org/med...complaints_on_reporting_research_and_reviews/

 

[Elio Amazed]

Just because you can make bread in a countertop machine with a box of bread mix doesn't make for good bread. I bake all of my own bread and touch all of the ingredients. I would suggest driving the EV to the local bakery and buying a loaf of artisan bread, otherwise a waste of electricity. IMO

Yes... but aren't you also someone who uses a countertop machine to produce unparalleled prime rib?

Who’d have ever thought.....

 

[CrimsonEclipse]

Preposterous! In the true sense of the word, putting ‘the end’ before the beginning. For fear of being condescending (you do know what that means? ) all those steps, mechanically, physically, and electronically were simplified by solar photovoltaics and (presently addressed) battery storage. When similar steps are engineered, designed, and implemented for Hydrogen Applications, it may be just as straightforward.

Hydrogen fuel science hasn’t been born long enough to die already. People are actually flying around the world now and you can even make bread in a countertop machine without touching the ingredients! Who’d have ever thought.....

No worries. I'm pretty sure you're not being condescending using 5th grade words

Think simplicity, almost like an Occam's Razor for engineering.
If two systems have the same efficiency, the one with the fewest moving parts will likely be the most successful.
Pumps, tanks, cryo systems, all moving parts and add unnecessary complexity.

Funny you mention kitchen top bread machines. They were quite the fad years back.
Today, most people still buy bread in the grocery store.

 

[Rickb]

Yes... but aren't you also someone who uses a countertop machine to produce unparalleled prime rib?

Who’d have ever thought.....

LOL! Yes, but sous viding a ribeye steak in a plastic bag in a pot of precision temperature water isn't cooking in a machine,

 

[johnsnownw]

Preposterous! In the true sense of the word, putting ‘the end’ before the beginning. For fear of being condescending (you do know what that means? ) all those steps, mechanically, physically, and electronically were simplified by solar photovoltaics and (presently addressed) battery storage. When similar steps are engineered, designed, and implemented for Hydrogen Applications, it may be just as straightforward.

Hydrogen fuel science hasn’t been born long enough to die already. People are actually flying around the world now and you can even make bread in a countertop machine without touching the ingredients! Who’d have ever thought.....

FCs have been around since the 60's...in vehicles. The reasons it won't work for light-duty vehicles are numerous. The largest issue being that 700 bar compressed H2 is required. There is a whole mess of issues just due to the compression, and that's ignoring the issues with hydrogen itself. You can't change physics.

 

[booboo]

https://www.treehugger.com/bikes/podbike-electric-quadricycle.html
P.S.
I still want my ELIO.

 

[Donnyboy]

I think EV information is appropriate here. I think it shows how much more viable ICE cars are for the foreseeable future. Tesla reported earnings this week. They were expected to ONLY lose $2.25 per share. They actually lost $2.92 per share. Stock tanked.